View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:53 am



Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
****WARNING*** Early 944 Spindles 
Author Message
Driver
User avatar

Joined: Nov 06, 2009
Posts: 126
I thought I'd post this warning after I broke a spindle and lost a wheel in the Hairpin at Sebring. The early 944s up to 85.5 and all the 924S models use a driver's side spindle with a hole for the speedometer cable. They are weak, and when constantly used in racing will fail. I am posting this because I knew of this problem and ignored it. The result was the loss of the wheel, hub, spindle, brakes and fender on that corner of the car. I "tri-cycled" it off the track safely, but had it broken in a high speed corner, it could have been a lot worse. Here are some pictures of the failed part, showing how little metal there is. I have since upgraded to 87 spindles and Hubs, which are not only stronger, but use larger wheel bearings. I maintained the rest of my early offset suspension, modifying the strut mounts slightly, where they bolt to the spindles. I recommend going directly to the late spindles, because they are larger and hopefully stronger than the "hole-less" 85.5 to 86 spindles.


Attachments:
IMG_1949.jpg
IMG_1949.jpg [ 53.88 KiB | Viewed 7077 times ]
IMG_1948.jpg
IMG_1948.jpg [ 65.79 KiB | Viewed 7077 times ]
IMG_1947.jpg
IMG_1947.jpg [ 53.28 KiB | Viewed 7077 times ]
Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:31 am
Profile
Rookie Driver

Joined: Apr 24, 2011
Posts: 2
Thanks for sharing this.

I broke my driver side spindle this summer at the Tremblant track (Qc, Canada) and discoverd a new meaning to the word understeer!

Actually, my car is a 85 1/2, so my spindle did not have that hole but it broke just the same.

Any body has a set of late spindle for sale?


Walter.


Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:08 pm
Profile
Driver
User avatar

Joined: Nov 06, 2009
Posts: 126
Walter, I posted the same warning on Rennlist and someone replied with some late offset spindles for sale. Here is a link: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/racing-and-drivers-education-forum/659997-warning-early-944-spindles.html#post8948610


Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:41 am
Profile
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Nov 05, 2009
Posts: 1634
Location: Isle of Palms, SC
Does changing an early cars to late spindles also require a change in brake rotors? And, does the update also effect the wheel fitment with the early wheels?

_________________
Dave Derecola
National Director
944 Cup
cup944@aol.com


Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:49 am
Profile
Driver
User avatar

Joined: Nov 06, 2009
Posts: 126
It does require changing to late rotors, but wheel fitment is unchanged. Actually, the late rotors are a lot easier to change than the early ones, so there is some added benefit. The major issue is that you can't usually get enough camber with the late spindles unless you slot the mounting holes on the strut. If you want to keep early struts, you have to slot them anyway because the bolt holes are further apart on the late struts. I took the opportunity to change to late struts when I upgraded, and slotted the lower mounting hole to get enough camber.


Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:17 pm
Profile
Rookie Driver
User avatar

Joined: Nov 07, 2009
Posts: 25
Location: Portlandia
Tis worth noting that late rotors are way more expensive than early ones... but one accident due to a broken spindle would easily wipe out any savings!

_________________
PacNW 944 Cup . ICSCC #1
life is participation in evolution


Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:55 pm
Profile
Driver
User avatar

Joined: Nov 21, 2009
Posts: 216
Location: Redmond, Wa.
The 87 up spindles also require a different strut as the flange is narrower than the early version. I tried to track the failures as it seemed there was nearly always a prior accident on that side of the car. Greg F


Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:19 pm
Profile WWW
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 7 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Designed by ST Software.