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DrFranz
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and so what are those of us who read the rule book and fabricated accordingly supposed to do?
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| Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:07 pm |
 
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Director
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DrFranz wrote: and so what are those of us who read the rule book and fabricated accordingly supposed to do? Would it possible for those of you to adjust accordingly? Or, how would you like the rules to be written to suit you? _________________Dave Derecola National Director 944 Cup cup944@aol.com
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| Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:16 pm |
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DrFranz
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Location: New York, NY
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In hindsight, I'm likely the only one affected. I'm having new uprights fabricated to comply. Carry on! 
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:21 am |
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Director
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DrFranz wrote: In hindsight, I'm likely the only one affected. I'm having new uprights fabricated to comply. Carry on! Spoken like a two time National Champion! Thank you. ps. love your avatar. the best. _________________Dave Derecola National Director 944 Cup cup944@aol.com
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:36 am |
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DrFranz
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Poor Bill, got him right in the face there!
By the way, I'm repainting the car, it's going to be gorgeous next year!
Love you guys, Happy Holidays to all!
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:45 am |
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Director
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Director wrote: Planning some changes that will effect legal mods to the engine, in particular the cylinder head. .........................
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(g)Cylinder head and upper end of block may be milled and head gasket used that will bring compression ratio to achieve the maximum compression ratio of 10.5:1 for all 2.5L motors and 10.9:1 for all 2.7L motors. Milling of the head beyond the factory service limit is not permitted for any reason. An offset key may NOT be used to adjust cam timing.
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The planned rule change has been corrected to include 10.6:1 as the max ratio for the 2.5L. _________________Dave Derecola National Director 944 Cup cup944@aol.com
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:35 am |
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Director
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A note here should be made to clarify the the governing body holding the event may have rules in place that supersede the Cup rules for conduct, protest and appeals. For example, when Cup is running with PCA, PCA rules for enforcing car prep rules and 13/13's, etc., are the governing rules and will supercede the rules described below. When Cup is running registration, has its own run group and and has dedicated track time, then the Cup rules discussed below will apply. Director wrote: Director wrote: Also, the protest and appeal process provided for in race supps issued prior to each race with be incorporated into the 2013 rules.
Basically, protests for car prep and driver conduct can be made directly to the Chapter Director within certain parameters. Appeals of Chapter Director ruling can also be appealed to the Chapter Director given new evidence not considered in the initial ruling. And and finally, a ruling by a Chapter Director can be appealed to the National Director given certain parameters which are fact based and not opinion driven.
While these rules have not used very often, they are there in the rare case if needed to make for a competitive, fun, and safe race series. As proposed: 12 Protests and Appeals
12.1 Appeal
Drivers may file an appeal of any ruling to the Chapter Director. Such appeals must be in writing and presented to the Director within 30 minutes of the end of the qualifying session or race. Director findings will only be overturned in the event of compelling evidence that was not available to the steward at the time of the original decision.
12.2 Protests
Any entered driver may lodge a protest against another driver disputing the mechanical
compliance of their competition vehicle. To lodge a protest, the protestor shall obtain a
a protest form, fill it out, and file it, along with a nonrefundable $100 fee, with
the Director who may accept the protest, may extend the time
allowed, or may reject the protest.
For the protest to be valid, it must meet the following conditions:
1. Be filed within thirty (30) minutes of the completion of a qualifying session or race and two hours before the start of the last race of the weekend.
2. Each part that is being protested must be named specifically and include presentation of evidence .
3. Each part may be considered a separate protest, in terms of fees.
4. Each part listed shall be accompanied by the rule(s) number that it violates and an explanation of the reasons the part is thought to be illegal.
5. Accepted by the Director.
12.3 Request For Action (RFA)
Any entered driver may lodge a protest against another driver’s on-track conduct. The
protestor shall obtain a “Request for Action Form”, fill it out, and file it with the Cup Director. The RFA Form must be filed within thirty (30) minutes of the end of the session in which the incident occurred. The Director may accept the RFA, may extend the time allowed, or may reject the RFA.
12.4 Bad Faith Protests
Any competitor having knowledge of illegal parts or modifications to another competitor’s vehicle has an obligation to immediately disclose that information to that competitor and the Director. To file a protest in violation of these rules will cause action to be taken against the protestor. This will not however, affect the acceptance, rejection, or outcome of the protest.
12.5 Appeals – National
Any decision made by the Chapter Director may be appealed to the National Director.
Any decision made by the National Director is final. The appellant must submit, in
writing, all of the details of the case, including references to all applicable rules, along
with any and all evidence, including a copy of original appeal form, and the fee of one
hundred ($100) dollars, to the National Director (in person, if present).
All items must be emailed to the National Director within three
(3) business days after the last day of the event. [Note- Appeals at the
National Championships will be handled on site, providing that the National Director is
present. In this case the competitor must inform the National Director of their intent to
file an Appeal within 30 minutes of being informed of the outcome of the last
decision. The National Director will then give the appellant a time frame in which all
evidence must be submitted. The intent is to come to a fair and prompt conclusion in the
case.]
The National Director, at his discretion, may grant written permission to extend the time
frame for both the appellant and the Race Director equally, in extreme or unusual cases.
The National Director may review the case based solely on the evidence presented
within the time frame. No new evidence may be allowed after the time frame for
submission has passed. However, the National Director may call upon either party, at
anytime, for clarifications.
The National Director shall make an effort to ensure that fairness and justice is served.
He will administer the case holding these two qualities in higher regard than any other
factor. The Executive Director has the power to make adjustments in
decisions and penalties in each case.
If an appeal is ruled to be “not well founded,” the appeal fees (both Regional and
National) will be retained and the National Director may increase the penalties. If the
appeal is deemed “well founded”, the National Appeal fee will be returned._________________Dave Derecola National Director 944 Cup cup944@aol.com
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:41 am |
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DrFranz
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Joined: Nov 23, 2009
Posts: 204
Location: New York, NY
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So, along those lines, if PCA is governing, then we are required to pit in the event of any contact.
We don't do that if we are governing, correct?
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:49 am |
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Director
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DrFranz wrote: So, along those lines, if PCA is governing, then we are required to pit in the event of any contact.
We don't do that if we are governing, correct? Correct _________________Dave Derecola National Director 944 Cup cup944@aol.com
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| Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:57 am |
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Director
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Working feverishly to finalize the 2013 rules. The changes involving compression ratios and milling of the head have use going back in forth while looking for the best solution of controlling power and improving inspections.
The latest version will set CR limits at a level considering the maximum CR piston for a factory piston ( 10:6 for the 2.5 and 10.9 for the 2.7) with a stock head gasket and an added allowance for truing the head more than once. So truing of cylinder heads with compensating head gasket thickness is allowed, as long as the compression limit is not exceeded.
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| Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:46 am |
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